Interview with Dan Holman (September 2006)
Christian Activist Pro-Life News: 'I'd rather be who I am right now sitting in this chair than any other man walking on the streets of Milwaukee'...Dan Holman
Volume 4, Issue 33 -- September 14, 2006
'I'd rather be who I am right now sitting in this chair than any other man walking on the streets of Milwaukee on his way to Hell.' (Dan Holman, November 1999)
Dear Friends for Life,
Part 3 of our exclusive pro-life interviews is with Dan and Donna Holman, Missionaries to the Preborn, Iowa. I have been blessed to have met Dan and Donna and appreciate their commitment to ending the holocaust of the unborn children in America through street ministry and pro-life activism. I have read numerous times where pro-aborts ridicule pro-lifers saying we do not act like aborting a child before viability is really murder... Well, none of the pro-aborts can say this about Dan and Donna. They live their pro-life beliefs everyday.
Before we get to the interview, I want to share with you a transcript of Dan taken in the court of Judge William Sosnay on November 4th, 1999.
I believe Dan Holman brought glory to our LORD; (I love you as a dear brother in the LORD, Mr. Holman. Angela Wittman, editor):
THE COURT: Mr. Holman, is there anything you wish to say before I sentence you?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes. A couple months ago I was at a political convention is St. Louis. A couple blocks from the hotel there was a courthouse that's been turned into a museum. It's been turned into a museum just for one case. That case was the 1857, Dred Scott decision. I was struck by one exhibit in that courthouse. And that was the fact that they were trading in human flesh right on the courthouse steps. Up until January of 1864, they were auctioning off--putting black men, women, and children on the auction blocks right on the courthouse steps.
And I wondered why of all places in St. Louis did they do this? Why auction off these people on courthouse steps? It occurred to me that it was because they wanted to give slavery a sense of civility, a sense of legitimacy, an air of propriety. They wanted to show it some moral rectitude because this was happening right on the courthouse steps right under the seat of justice that it must be okay.
I wondered about why the people of St. Louis even had that blot on their historical record, why they made a museum out of this. And part of the reason, I'm sure, was for future generations to learn from it; but part of it, too, was to say--'If we would have lived in those days we certainly wouldn't have supported this; it's obviously wrong, politically incorrect. '
Jesus had something to say about this. He foresaw His crucifixion. He talked to the scribes and Pharisees. This is what He says to them, "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees--that's the teachers of the law--you hypocrites, because you build tombs of the prophets and garnish adornments of the righteous, and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. ' Therefore, you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up then the measure of your father's guilt, you serpents. How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, indeed I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of them you will kill and crucify. Some of them you scourge in the synagogues and persecute from city to city. That upon you may come all the righteous bloodshed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. "
There is blood guilt for anyone that supports the moral atrocities of their time. Every generation has them. In our past, a hundred and fifty years ago, it was slavery. This time it's abortion. St. Louis has half a dozen abortion clinics in their city. We've got three. A hundred and eighty murdered every week in this town, and people in the audience and people that testify against me partake in that murder. What does it say about the legal system that protects them?
I'd rather be who I am right now sitting in this chair than any other man walking on the streets of Milwaukee on his way to Hell. Any man who's got innocent blood on his hands, the blood of children on their hands, because it is God in heaven who hears the cries of these innocent babies. I'm not afraid of what you're going to do to me today because history is going to vindicate me. And Mr. Thornton (Dan's appointed counsel) is quite right; I am going back to the clinics as soon as I get out. Thank you.
Q: First of all, please tell us a little about your ministry "Missionaries to the Preborn Iowa":
Dan: Donna and I are celebrating our 4th wedding anniversary on October 6th. That was the beginning of Missionaries to the Pre-born Iowa. The focus of MTPI is the abortion facilities in Iowa. We frequent the Planned Parenthoods in Iowa City and Des Moines. We also visit other death camps around the state, and others out of state. We do campus ministry when the weather permits. We preach the gospel using abortion, fornication, and sodomy as a springboard.
Q: When did you first realize the LORD had called you to pro-life ministry?
Dan: I was at a church service that had a anti-abortion message. They showed a movie where two abortions were performed. It so incensed me that I decided to dedicate my life to fighting it.
Donna read an ad in the paper submitted by a nurse asking for volunteers to be involved in fighting abortions which were being done in a Des Moines, Iowa hospital, this was in 1972.
Q: How many years have you been a pro-life missionary?
Dan: Donna began in 1972, a year before Roe v. Wade, I didn't wake up until 1980. We both did Right to Life work, education, political action, fundraising stuff. I realized after 6 years that this kind of work was not the best use of my time. I had not saved one baby in all that time. I determined to step it up or quit. I began to do clinic blockades (rescue) January 11, 1989. I had done hundreds of rescues until the laws became draconian. The Federal Access to Clinic Entrances Act (F.A.C.E.) put the kabosh on rescue. The price was too high to continue block the doors. We had to change our tactics.
Q: How has being a pro-life missionary affected your life? Did your family and friends support your decision to be a pro-life missionary?
Dan: Donna found no support from anyone in her family. Her friends did not support her either. She endured a tremendous amount of resistance from everyone including her church. Her pastor was ashamed of her for speaking up for the pre-born. She was very isolated. My mother and one of my sisters have been very supportive. My 1st wife divorced me over it, my two daughters are supportive, but not my son. Jesus said this would happen (Matthew 10:21-22). It is normal Christianity. He also warned that if anyone puts family before Him they are not worthy of Him! A man can make his family into an idol by putting their opinions or feelings before God's will.
Q: Do local churches in Iowa help support your ministry?
Dan: We home church. There isn't an active church in our area.
Q: Please give us an update on the work of MTTP Iowa and how can we help support your ministry?
Dan: We are very busy with campus ministry which we work in with the death camp watch. We are doing campus ministry this week: Grinnell and Ames, Iowa and covering the Planned Parenthood death camps in Iowa City and Des Moines. It is 400 miles of driving and 3 days on the road. We never ask anyone for anything, we trust in God's providence. He cares for all the creatures of the earth, and we are worth more than many sparrows. There have been many times that we have been blest out of the blue. The Holy Spirit moves someone to give us support. You can give people our address if they want to contact us. We can be reached at:
Missionaries to the Pre-born Iowa
P.O. Box 135
Keokuk, Iowa 52632